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Unregistered User
(12/16/01 11:45 am)
Kriya Science
I'm delighted - to discover this message board full of intelligent and informed commentary. We have inherited a powerful collection of ideas, technologies, philosophical and psychological insights, and examples given to the world by one of the most extraordinary human beings who ever graced the planet - PY. That these have been co-opted by a small group that has not been able to organize and reflect them effectively to the rest of the world is a shame. Perhaps this board represents one of the first of many steps soon to come that will reclaim these gifts for the betterment and use of men and women everywhere.

There have been many interesting topics addressed elsewhere on this list and some valuable insights brought to bear on them. I would like to suggest that there is another topic that should get attention and that is the science of Kriya Yoga. I've been concerned for years that some of the technology that PY passed along has been lost or is hidden from view.

Let me explain with a true story. Fifteen years ago I was living on the hill at Mt. Washington, not a monastic but working with monastics. I had received the 4 kriya initiations offered by SRF and was dutifully practicing with encouraging results.

As some of you will recall there is buried among the higher kriya lessons some instructions relating to khechari mudra. I found those instructions vague and had done little to nothing about this technique at that time. However, if memeory serves, there is some strong statement accompanying the description such as "this technique MUST be practiced by the devotee" or words to that effect.

Then I came into contact with some Indian kriyabans descended from other Lahiri kriya lineages than the Sri Yukteswar to PY one, and they made a rather big deal about the need to master this mudra. My interest was piqued so I sought out senior monastics and asked about the technique. Apparently no one was practicing it or had any info they were willing to pass on to me.

I decided to go the the "top" so sent an inquiry to Daya Mata, using the interoffice mail to speed it on its way. The answer came back within 2 weeks, what a surprise! Unfortunately, I made the mistake of mentioning the Indian kriyabans in my letter and this then became the focus of the reply. I was not to listen to anyone not sanctioned by SRF, I was not to read any books not published by SRF, etc, etc. It was suggested that such had confused my mind.

Gee, I did not feel confused, except by the kriya lesson in question. I could read quite clearly in that lesson an exhortation to practice the technique but there were no instructions on how to work the technique into one's practice nor enough details about it to do it correctly. The reply was written by a secretary on Ma's behalf so its rather curt and dismissive tone did not bother me the way it would have if the letter was directly from my beloved leader. I'd never met her, of course, and still haven't after 27 years in the organization. (Mukti Ma has given worthwhile counsel to me, and Sister Shanti personified kindness on a couple of occassions. No experience with the others, which from what I've read on this list is a blessing not a deprivation!)

There was in the reply from Daya Mata this tip, however, that you will not find in the lessons: keep practicing the main techniques and when you are ready the mudra will occur naturally. I apologize that at this moment I cannot take the time to identify and unpack the stored box that contains the kriya lessons and the reply from Ma so I am writing this from memory. I believe it is all substantially correct, however.

So I have continued to practice the 4 main kriya techniques. I fully realize that techniques are not everything, and that the realization of self that comes from the totality of all that we do is what does matter. Yet the techniques are important, for lots of reasons.

My question for this group is this - are you all satisfied with the transmission of the meditation techniques that we have received from SRF? Have they held back, changed anything, or lost parts of the science that PY did teach?

Is anyone there really qualified to teach us as we progress? For my part I have not found a suitable mentor and have learned to rely on inner promting, intuition, and good old trial and error. I found the written advice obtainable from MC uneven at best, with some good advice forthcoming in the early days but later on my unknown, unseen correspondents becoming less than helpful, detrimental even in their rigid insistence on spouting only pat answers.

A few years back I felt the desire, the need, to increase my kriyas over the 108 I had been doing for some time. I did not ask permission - who could I trust other than Master? I was surprised after the repressive advice I had received for years to find that I could move the kriya numbers up, much more quickly than I thought possible. Inspired by stories of Dr Lewis I managed to do 1000 kriyas in one sitting for the first time about 1 year after beginning to increase the numbers.

About that time I had the chance to meet privately with Bro Anandamoy, and decided to describe to him all that I had been doing over the last year. He listened, looked somewhat aghast, and dismissed the approach with a short "you don't need to do that". He did not try to forbid me or strongly discourage me, which I thought somewhat telling. He doesn't really know what to advise me was my conclusion, yet he is supposed to be the male expert in this science, right?

I thought about his comment "not really necessary" and could agree with him in some ways. Nonetheless, for me at that time it was necessary and I have never doubted the benefits of having made that effort. Nor the pure benefits of doing kriya for long periods of time. Why do they hold everyone back, do you think?

There is so much we don't know about kriya, yet it is so steeped in secrecy and restricted by the Ma's that I don't think SRF can actually be the world's leading authority on the science that is at the heart of the religion.

I would like to see discussion and research (historical, practical, or clinical) on kriya science start to take place. There are a lot of questions, yet the surface has barely been scratched by anyone I know. Am I alone in this interest?

Thanks for listening.

Delighted still

Registered User
(12/16/01 12:04 pm)
Positively Excellent!
Great Positive suggestion for discussion. My posting to you is framed in a larger context of this Walrus board. Be willing to seek a mentor within and/or outside the SRF confines. Look for someone with years of kechari & higher kriya experience. If Master is your Guru, 1) with desire, prayer and attunement (sounds like you got it!), he will guide you to eventually discover the right person, and 2) Find & speak with those disciples who are attuned to Yogananda. You've got to figure this one out for yourself; this is, in fact, the conundrum of this site! Don't give up until you find him/her. Hey Guys/Gals, some more suggestions? Specific disciples? In devotion to Master and Delighted to have "met" you, I send blessings.

Registered User
(12/16/01 2:39 pm)
Re: Most Positively Excellent!

It is funny that you ask about the Kriya's because I was reading the Bhagavad Gita several days ago and came across this passage on page 492:
...By perfect performance of Kriya 1728 times in one posture (that is, at one time), and by practicing a total of 20,736 Kriyas, a devotee can reach the state of samadhi (God-union).

Then further on in the same paragraph:

...twice daily practice of Kriya Yoga from 14 to 24 times, and thereafter increased in increments of 12, up to 108 (as advised by the guru.)

When I read this, my thought was: How does one jump from 108 to 1728? Mind you, I am not ready to do this but the thought did pop into my mind. So I searched the web and came across this site: www.babaji.ca/english/index.html.

This site gives a history of Babaji, some of this I copy here:

Babaji was given the name "Nagaraj," which means "serpent king," referring to "kundalini," our great divine potential power and consciousness. He was born on the 30th day of November 203 A.D., in a small coastal village now known as Parangipettai, in Tamil Nadu, India, near where the Cauvery River flows into the Indian Ocean. His birth coincided with the ascendancy (Nakshatra) of the star of Rohini, under which Krishna was also born. The birth took place during the celebration of Kartikai Deepam, the Festival of Lights, the night before the new moon during the Tamil month of Kartikai. His parents were Nambudri Brahmins who had immigrated there from the Malabar coast on the western side of south India. His father was the priest in the Shiva temple of this village, which is today a temple dedicated to Muruga, ShivaŐs son.

At the age of 5, he was kidnapped by a trader and taken as a slave to what is today Calcutta. A rich merchant purchased him, but shortly thereafter gave him his freedom. He joined a small band of wandering monks, and with them became learned in the sacred religious and philosophical literature of India. However, he was not satisfied. Hearing of the existence of a great siddha, or perfected master, named Agastyar, in the south, he made a pilgrimage to the sacred temple of Katirgama, near the southern most tip of Ceylon, the large island just south of peninsular India. There he met a disciple of Agastyar, whose name was Boganathar. He studied "dhyana," or meditation, intensively and "Siddhantham," the philosophy of the Siddhas, with Boganathar for four years. He experienced "sarvihelpa samadhi," or cognitive absorption, and had the vision of Lord Muruga, the deity of the Katirgama temple.

At the age of 15, Boganathar sent him to his own guru, the legendary Agastyar, who was know to be living near to Courtrallam, in Tamil Nadu. After performing intensive yogic practices at Courtrallam for 48 days, Agastyar revealed himself, and initiated him into Kriya Kundalini Pranayama, a powerful breathing technique. He directed boy Nagaraj to go to Badrinath, high in the Himalayas, and to practice all that he had learned, intensively, to become a "siddha." Over the next 18 months, Nagaraj lived alone in a cave practicing the yogic techniques which Boganathar and Agastyar has taught him. In so doing, he surrendered his ego, all the way down to the level of the cells in his body, to the Divine, which descended into him. He became a siddha, one who has surrendered to the power and consciousness of the Divine! His body was no longer subject to the ravages of disease and death. Transformed, as a Mah or great siddha, he dedicated himself to the upliftment of suffering humanity.

Since that time, Babaji has continued to guide and inspire some of history`s greatest saints and many spiritual teachers, in the fulfillment of their mission. These include Adi Shankaracharya, the great 9th century A.D. reformer of Hinduism, and Kabir, the 15th century saint beloved by both the Hindus and Muslims. Both of them were personally initiated by Babaji, and refer to him in their writings.

He has maintained the remarkable appearance of a youth of about 16 years of age. During the 19th century Madame Blavatsky, the founder of the Theosophical Society, identified him as the Matreiya, the living Buddha, or World Teacher for the coming era, described in C.W. LeadbetterŐs "Masters and the Path." BabajiŐs greatest contribution to the world in modern times has been the revival, beginning in 1861, of Kriya Yoga, whom Patanjali refers to in his famous "Yoga-Sutras." Patanjali wrote this classic text of yoga about the 3rd century A.D. In it he defines Kriya Yoga in II.1 as "constant practice, (particularly by the cultivation of detachment), self-study, and devotion to the Lord." However, along with what Patanjali described as Kriya Yoga, Babaji added the teachings of the tantra, which includes the cultivation of "kundalini," the great potential power and consciousness, through the use of breathing, mantras and devotional practices. His modern synthesis of "Kriya Yoga," includes a rich variety of techniques.

There is also, on the above site, some information on Kriya. You may find it helpful. Godspeed to you.

Edited by: AumBoy at: 12/16/01 3:47:23 pm
Registered User
(12/16/01 8:12 pm)
Babaji's kriya yoga
I know this group. The kriya they teach is not the kriya that is coming from the Lahiri line. It is some other practice entirely

Registered User
(12/16/01 11:12 pm)
Re: Babaji's kriya yoga
Thank you for the information. I have not looked at them.

Unregistered User
(12/17/01 5:06 am)
Kechari Mudra
Hi there:

There is a excellent site www.yoganiketan.net where you can find online several books by Lahiri Mahasaya and Sri Yukteswar's disciples. I use to correspond by email with its leader, nicknamed "Kashi" (initiated in the 80's by Sailendra B. Dasgupta, one of disciples of Sri Yukteswar and who helped Yogananda in his trip to India, in 1935-6), who told me how to increase Kriya until 1728. Also you can find there very good information about Kechari Mudra.

By the way, Ananda also teaches Kechari--I've got a very good video from them with a class on that technique. And I am a SRF member!

The secret of Kechari is firstly learning how to stretch the frenum, a membrane beneath the tongue. Some exercises must be done everyday in order to stretch it gradually and naturally. (The frenum should not be cut!). As you strech the frenum you will be able to touch the tongue to the uvula, and then to bring it above the soft palate, into the nasal cavity. By practicing the higher Kriyas (3th and 4th) with the tongue in Kechari, the tongue is brought above the soft palate until the point between the eyebrows (within the nasal cavity), where it creates a powerful magnetic field that draws energy from the senses to the brain.

Roy E. Davis wrote me: "To disciples, Paramahansaji advised to practice kriya pranayama as many times as it was comfortable to do so, without straining, then to rest in the after-effect calmness to experience superconscious states. He emphasized that depth of practice was more important than many repetitions without concentration."

So I am practing of my own accord more than 108 Kriyas and the methods to attain Kechari. I am trying to receive Master's direct guidance on these issues. Master is my Guru, not the organization.

Those of you who are interested in Kechari could do the same. The Ananda video is excellent!

Unregistered User
(12/17/01 9:35 am)
Re: Kriya Science and the Radical Experiment
Thanks to everyone who responded with thought provoking suggestions and practical advice to my original post. There are so few people that SRF kriyabans can talk to openly, within SRF, and we don't often encounter kriyabans from outside SRF. I am very glad to have this opportunity. Way to go, Walrus!

To bring the discussion back to SRF for a moment, the example of khechari mudra demonstrates again that the caretakers of PY's teachings are not doing the job they have taken on themselves very well. If there was nothing about the technique in the SRF literature and they said Master did not teach it that would be one thing. But it is included, though inadequately, in the kriya lessons yet there seems to be no way to learn anything further about it from SRF. Could it be that no one at Mother Center knows anything more about it or are they just not willing to discuss it?

What is going on there? Do any of the ex-monastics have any feel for how the BOD regards kriyabans who have been practicing for decades and want to know and learn more about kriya than they did the first 3 years they were on the Path? Perhaps what we have is all that Master did teach them... could he have considered them not such promising students?

Going back to khechari mudra does anyone have knowledge of what Kriyananda says about what PY taught on this subject? I am interested in viewing the tape, but am curious as to what Kriyananda knows about this and from whom he learned it. If I have the chronology correct, he was still fairly young and early in his own practice when PY left the body. Perhaps other of Sri Yukteswar's disciples shared it with him during his years in India?

That Rajasi Janakananda became ill and left the body so soon after Master was a major blow to the work I would guess. Who knows what he might have had to say and teach if he had been around another 15 years.

Eventually we have to accept the fact that PY undertook a radical experiment in creating SRF as the vehicle to convey the teachings of kriya yoga to a greater number of people than the traditional guru/disciple models had been able to do. Lahiri and his disciples reached a few thousand while SRF if better managed could reach millions. But what compromises did he feel compelled to make? Is SRF kriya a limited version, suitable for this type of transmission?

Works pretty well anyway, even if this is true. As many know, the jyoti mudra (renamed from the Indian name?) sets the light blazing in the spiritual eye of those who practice, making me reluctant to suggest that the SRF techniques might be limited. Yet more of us are becoming aware of other Indian kriya lineages, and even those such as Lahiri's (great?)-grandson, who are describing kriya practices that are more detailed and complex than what SRF teaches. Why is that?

Openness is what I am getting at. Eventually SRF will have to address these and many other issues. I think the monastics and all devotees will be better off if there is open, honest discussion. Let's learn, let's find out the facts and deal with them as they are! I have a feeling that kriya yoga science is just beginning to be felt in the world, and that there will be a lot of changes as its practice and our understanding of it matures.

Most kriya paths now seem to be taught as secret practices, with allegiance given to the path and teacher before one receives much of anything. Is this the only way to go about it? Is it possible in the world of the future that access to such knowledge will become free and open for all who value it?

Perplexed, though still delighted

Unregistered User
(12/17/01 10:21 am)
Learn Kechari Mudra through anand*
You can get a booklet and video with instruction on learning Kechari Mudra from Anand*. Their Kriya Ministry is also very helpful regarding questions about Kechari, etc. To order the Kechari book and video, go to (replace the '*' in the URL with 'a'):


Unregistered User
(12/17/01 1:57 pm)

In the Anand* video, we are told that one day Master told Dr. Lewis, "Doctor, you are not practicing Kriya properly." "What do you mean, Sir?" Doctor asked. "You should be doing it with Kechari," Master replied.

Kriyanandaji himself asked Master, "Should I do Kriya with Kechari?" (since he could do it at that time). But he was new on the path at that time (probably one or two years), so Master replied, "Not yet." Master, we see, did want people to do Kechari, once they had got the currents right with AW and EE. This is how I could understand (English is not my mother tongue); I hope someone from Anand* or Kriyanandaji himself could confirm or clarify these things.

Norman Paulsen (another direct disciple) wrote in his book "The Christ Consciousness" that he was able to do it immediately at his first attempt. Hearing this, Master advised him to do Kriya with Kechari.

And I heard that Kamala told someone she got far more from the Higher Kriyas when she did them with Kechari.

If you write to Mother Center asking Kechari Mudra they will teach you a very simple synopsis, saying Kechari is helpful "but not essential." (In the lesson K-14, Master urges us to do it regularly.) But they don't teach us how to stretch the frenum.

We can find other references to Kechari Mudra in SRF literature (see Mejda and Master's Gita for example).

It's the time for these things come out to light!

Registered User
(12/18/01 8:22 am)
Re: Kechari
There are detailed instructions on this technique as well as every other yoga technique in Bihar School of Yoga's translation of the text "Hatha Yoga Pradipika" (spelling might be wrong) available at Bodhi Tree Bookstore (on occasion), Nataraj Books in Virginia (they have a web site) and Bihar School of Yoga directly (see their web site for complete book list. - they also sell a bound version of their kriya yoga lessons - they are a little different than the kriya of the Lahiri lineage - but rather interesting anyway. The book is called something like "The Tantric Yoga technique of Kriya Yoga", it is a large book - costs about $100. ) Please note that when you buy from Bihar directly you need to go to the bank and get an international money order.

Registered User
(12/18/01 8:38 am)
Books on Kriya Yoga
There are other books that are on Kriya Yoga directly. They are not all published in the US. They are:

Harihariananda's Kriya Yoga - this was republished a few years back (they have a web site and an ashram in Florida - I do NOT recommend getting kriya yoga from them.) but the book is good

Chatterjee, a disciple of Lahiri's grandson (Shibendu's father) wrote a book. He wants about $100 for it. I don't have a copy but I here it is useful. Book is published in India. Try his web site or Nataraj books (Kashi , see message above, would know his web site if you can't find it)

There are some kriya yoga books published in Europe by a disciple of Yogananda's guru. They have a web site. Hmm , I forget the name of this book and the organization. They sent me the books

There is an excellent discription of the tongue going to the top of the nasal passages in Mutkananda's "Play of Consciousness" - this book is probably available everywhere. (You might check Bodhi Tree's used book store)

I do recommend the "Shiva Sutras" this is a classic Yoga text. It is not a kriya line but does deal, (at least it seemed to me it did) with some of the same things we were taught in kriya yoga lessons.

Another MUST get book is the "Minor uphanishads", containing more specifically the Yoga uphanishads. This book is not so easy to find. The yoga uphanishads would, of course, be in a book containing all 108 of the Uphanishads but these books would probably need to be special ordered. (You need to book up the title/topic in "India's Books in Print") Nataraj and Bodhi tree bookstores have copies of India's Books in Print. (however, not all of india's books in print are listed there).
These Yoga Uphanishads describe what sounds to me like Kriiya Yoga. (You might want to examine several translations of these texts)

Registered User
(12/18/01 3:50 pm)
Re: Books on Kriya Yoga
what a fantasitc thread - I have been waiting for this kind of information from "SRF"ers for a long time.

on various boards ketchari has been a big discussion for a long time, it is good to get some other kind of input.

thanks everone for your generosity


Just Wondering
Unregistered User
(12/20/01 6:23 am)
Yogananda and Kechari Mudra
A fellow SFRer once told me that , Guruji's picture on the autobiography , has him practising kechari :eek

But I am not sure about this info , many people who practise kechari might be able to tell



Unregistered User
(1/2/02 6:32 pm)
The lines true to Lahiri utilize kechari from the start. Beginning techniques to stretch the tissue beneath and at the root of the tongue. Kechari is an integral component of the higher kriyas as taught by Indian lineages true to Lahiri.

Unregistered User
(1/6/02 12:54 pm)
Kechari mudra
Great posts here. Gimme that on-line religion!

Unregistered User
(1/7/02 1:52 am)
Original Gita by Yogananda vs page 491 & 492 in Gita 1st
Here is the origina writing of the Gita as first published in SRF magazines. I think it is important to compare it to the now Gita first edition page 491 & 492. Draw your own conclusion about the changes.

I will be haveing more example of this on my site

Taken from the original publish Gita in the SRF magazines vs 491 & 491 in The Bhagavad Gita first edition

The difference between this fire ceremony of janan or wisdom and the scientific fire ceremony of Kriya Yoga can be best illustrated in the following way:

The Sense Telephones

Two men were meditating in different rooms, each of which contained a telephone. The telephone rang in each room. One man said to himself, in a mood of intellectual bull-headedness: “I will concentrate so deeply that I will not be able to hear the rings of the telephone!” It is true that, in spite of external noise, he may succeed in concentrating within; but he has heedlessly complicated his task. This man may be compared to a jana yogi who tries to meditate on God ignoring the unceasing telephonic messages of sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch, as well as the outward pulls of the life force.

No Illusion!
The second man in our illustration had no illusion about his power to ignore the rule clamor or the telephone! He prudently withdrew the electrical plug and disconnected the instrument! He may be compared to the Kriya yogi who prevents any sensory distractions during meditation by disconnecting the life-force from the senses; he then reverses it s flow toward higher centers.

It must be noted there is a difference between “self-control”, and “the fire of control in Self”, referred to in the 27th stanza. Self-control often signifies the limited power of will used in subjugating a certain sense; or it may signify the power of self-control possessed by an average man. But “the fire of control in Self” refers to the supreme and unlimited power of control which the Self possesses as a true reflection of the Spirit.

The follower of the path of discrimination, by continuous use of will, tries to unite his ego with the unlimited power of the Self. If he succeeds, he unites his Soul with Spirit. He then finds his ten senses (the live instrument of knowledge), and the five life-forces to be automatically withdrawn into Cosmic Fire, destroying all sensory restlessness.

What is Wisdom?
This stanza of the Gita refers to the method of mediation enjoined by the Vedanta philosophy of India. The method consists in listening to the scriptural wisdom continuously thinking it over, and thus becoming one with it. I have described the defect of this method; it presents numerous difficulties. The mind is often pulled toward the senses by the life-force and by restless subconscious thoughts.

By controlling the life-force by the performance of the Kriya Yoga technique the yogi can gain a state of deep divine ecstasy. By practicing Kriya 1,728 time in one posture (that is, at one time), and by practicing a total of 20,736 Kriya, a devotee can reach the state of samadhi (God-union). But Kriya cannot be practiced so many times by a beginner. When the body and mind of the Kriya yogi are adequately prepared to accommodate the high voltage of so much Kriya Yoga practice, his guru will advise him that he is ready for the experience of samadhi. Through a thin wire only a certain amount of current can be passes, but many amperes of current can be discharge through a thick wire. Similarly, the body of an ordinary individual in the initial state of Kriya practice is like a thin weak wire which can only absorb with benefit the gradually increased amount of current generated by the daily practice of Kriya Yoga from 14 to 25, 25 to 50, and 50 to 100 times (as advised by the guru).

When the yogi by years of practice of Kriya Yoga makes his body and nerves adaptable, he can manifest within his body-ecstatically, easily –all the current generated by the practice of 20.736 Kriya, and much more.

Kriya Yoga Bestows Bliss

Kriya Yoga helps to attain ecstasy-the state in which the body is perceived not as flesh but as electro-lifetronic energy. The body thus realized as energy becomes one with Cosmic Energy. Ecstasy also reveals the inconceivable bliss of the soul. The soul and its bliss commingles with the cosmic blessedness of Spirit. In the state of ecstasy the yogi knows the body to be a motion picture of divine energy and also a dream of God’s consciousness.

By Kriya Yoga one can scientifically march toward God, quickening his evolution by step-by-step methods and by a greater or lesser number of correct practices of the Kriya Yoga technique.

My guru gave me the experience of ecstasy (samadhi) when my mind and body were ready. Before that, when I was not ready, I had been refused samadhi by the great yogi Ram Gopal Muzumdar (the story is given in Autobiography of a Yogi)

Unregistered User
(1/7/02 4:18 am)
To Dakota

Dear Dakota, maybe you know the answer from your association with Sri Durga Ma...


"But Kriya cannot be practiced so many times by a beginner.... Through a thin wire only a certain amount of current can be passes, but many amperes of current can be discharge through a thick wire. Similarly, the body of an ordinary individual in the initial state of Kriya practice is like a thin weak wire which can only absorb with benefit the gradually increased amount of current generated by the daily practice of Kriya Yoga from 14 to 25, 25 to 50, and 50 to 100 times (AS ADVISED BY THE GURU)."

Now the Guru is no longer in his physical form, how we can get advice and permission to increase our Kriyas? From Mother Center????

Registered User
(1/9/02 5:09 am)
Heres what I read...
I read somewhere that Don Walters (k-riyananda) had asked that very question of Yoganandaji...what if there are Kriya students living far out of the way and are not able to get in touch with Mother Centre to get permission to increase their Kriyas? He supposedly answered that they should gradually increase anyway, guided by their intuitive feeling.
One thing interesting about Durga Ma's statement about increasing Kriyas:
Apparently she once overheard Master praising a certain individual for doing a large number of Kriyas every day and she reflected that she had still been doing only her few for a fair while so she asked Paramahansaji if she could try doing 144 Kriyas like that man was doing. He suddenly went wide-eyed and retorted, "Are you crazy? Why would you want to do that?"

mattie jo
Unregistered User
(1/12/02 5:38 pm)
Kriya Science
Dear Delighted,

I know the Kriya lesson that you are talking about, I had read about Khechari Mudra elsewhere, and when I saw that in the lessons and realized that it was not complete, I called Mother Center and talked with a Mata.
I read to her what the lesson said, and her statement was, and I only saying this from memory: "Oh, that isn't clear. Next time they edit the lessons, I will ask them to remove that."

There are SRF Splinter groups that know the original Kriya techniques as taught by Yogananda, and one knows how to do Khechari Mudra. Then there is a Swami Hariharananda in Flordia that teaches the Kriya that Sri Yukteswar taught. I don't know much about him. If you want any names and phone numbers, let me know

Registered User
(1/12/02 10:06 pm)
Re: Kriya Science
Stay away from the Florida group, they change the kriya every time they give it out. Apparently, some involved for some time that to get the higher kriyas you have to give the swami some extra money (on the side)
The first kriya from this group is not even close to kriya yoga.
don't waste your time.

Mattie JO
Unregistered User
(1/13/02 5:52 pm)
Kriya Science
Dear Username,

I forgot about that. They charge $150.00. When I head that I realized that one should never ask for money. There is such a thing as a small donation when people are initiated, which is what happened in SRF, but that should not be mandatory, nor should it be stated how much. This money is mandatory as far as I understood it to be.

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