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KS
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(8/17/01 1:47 pm)
Reply 		More spiritual now...
A nun was meeting with some of the female employees at Mother Center and was making excuses for why all the monastics are leaving now. (28 by last count?) She said that a member had come onto the grounds recently and said that “now it feels so much more spiritual here at Mother Center”.

1) Does the spiritual vibration come from Master and God or those in training?
2) This is such an obvious statement of manipulation it makes me ill. They really do think we will accept anything.
3) It is also probably a lie. I doubt a devotee would tell them that the 28 monastics that left were in effect holding down the “vibration” at Mother Center. What a blatant criticism of those monastics.

Betrayed
Unregistered User
(8/17/01 4:28 pm)
Reply 		More spiritual now
I know first hand about how people within the ashram are told what to say. Typed versions of answers are given to monks, nuns and anyone who may be asked to respond to the any given situation. I was told to memorize the answer. When asked to lie about a situation, I refused and from then on, I was on the black list.

The usual explanation used when monastics left mother center in past years was "that divine mother was cleaning house". What a horrible way to dismiss the many wonderful souls who had given many years and sometimes decades of devoted service. Many leave beaten down with their spirits broken and yet joyous in the fact that now they can grow spiritually. How can mother center possibly be more spiritual when so many truly loving, compassionate monastics leave?

Disturbed
Unregistered User
(9/3/01 1:58 am)
Reply 		SRF likes disposable members
Dear Betrayed,

I'm very disturbed by the SRF glee for cleaning house. I was a lay-disciple who had given more than 20 years, all of my adult life, to the SRF cause. Having become a super underachiever and realizing that my involvement with SRF was somehow related to that problem, I vowed not to return until I worked out what had happened with me. I've been gone for over three years and NOT ONCE EVER has anyone I have known in SRF called to check if I am alive. Considering I used to serve in committees, you'd think someone would care. I am chilled to the core.

Wannabeananda
Unregistered User
(1/15/02 1:54 pm)
Reply 		SRF likes disposable members
Dear Betrayed,

I felt the same way. No one knew I was gone, but when they saw me in the neighborhood a year later, they said,"Hi, I haven't seen you in a long time."

I wish that I could tell you something that would be of help to you.

member108
Registered User
(9/17/05 6:05 am)
Reply 		Re: Monastic reactions
The topic of the SRF explainations of why monastics leave is one that even in the beginning made me ill. I was in a meeting years ago with a few monks when the subject of one of their fellow monks, who had just left, came up. "He is dead" "it will take many life times to regain the blessing he had"

At the time I thought SRF could do no wrong and it was the first problem I saw. Back then I imagined it was just a problem with these two monks. Later I found it was everywhere and they were brain washed to believe it.

Remember that there is a massive filter applied to the monastics. While you are expected to be interested in the SRF way of life it is nothing compared to the mind control routines you MUST be willing to accept to be allowed to stay there. This is what causes all the brain damage.

Any monastic who has survived there is damaged. Some are able to escape and recover, but many suffer permanent disorders as a result of their SRF monastic training.

maggie mcclintock
Registered User
(9/19/05 4:28 am)
Reply 		Re: Monastic reactions
[quote]I was in a meeting years ago with a few monks when the subject of one of their fellow monks, who had just left, came up. "He is dead" "it will take many life times to regain the blessing he had"[/quote]

What a cruel thing to say. They don't know his karma. I even bet that after even a thousand lifetimes he would not want to come back, not ever, and he never will. Instead this monk will have found a better way to reach enlightenment.

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